Question Xtreme-Ui v XUI v ZapX / Nxt dash

[julian]

FYI zapx is nxt. Nxt is just a rewrite of zapx with a different core a lot may disagree due to lack of knowing how to get it working correctly I personally thin xuione is by far the best but we all have our own opinions so no one bite my head off or give it large

Is nxt using xtream codes core or have they updated it completely? How does it compare to other panels? I have used xui one and many shapes and forms of xtream codes and xtream ui. With xui one it’s a bit of a love hate relationship. I would like to try nxt. Maybe someone from nxt can chime in. Thanks

i have never used xuione and have used zap and nxt for awhile now. what do you like better about xuione? i might check it out

There are many things I do not like about xui one and others I love, remember xui is discontinued and can be had nulled so cheap to get. Does nxt have modern features such as on demand instant off and proxy on all servers as xui one (within limits) and 1-stream. I seem to be going in the 1-stream direction lately, it looks promising. You seem to have been using zap/nxt for a while. Please tell me your experience with nxt. Thanks

 

[Defender666]

I need contact to NXT Dash Team. I own this panel and we lost a team member now need to contact NXT/Zapx for recurring my subscription.
Can anyone send Telegram or Discord contact by PM

 

[CentOS]

This seems to be an NXT/Zapx promotion thread.

 

[hus2003]

nxt works fine. and this team is doing their job well.

Can you offer a invite ?

 

[Youmeirean]

This seems to be an NXT/Zapx promotion thread.

And charging crazy prices 1k per month they on some good drugs

 

[thanospepe]

Supposedly you are conducting a survey, in fact the goal of the survey is to advertise your product

You are right, they are fishing clients.....

 

[julian]

Can you offer an invite ?

Looks like they are still active, however they had legal problems on the 27th November. There are some threads about it in this forum.

You are right, they are fishing clients.....

I am not sure they are fishing clients. Probably shedding the small clients. I got a contact a couple of months ago and now the telegram account does not exist any more. Mind you, they are not cheap at 500 without support and 1000 with support (whatever that would be). It could mean they don’t want small clients. It’s just what I think, I could be wrong.

 

[cccam007]

I test zapx but xui one is the best

 

[julian]

I test zapx but xui one is the best

I have to greater or lesser extent used these panels. they all have strong points and weak points
Xui one is good, but has some minor problems, nxt. as well, xtream ui and variants have too, 1 stream same thing...... and the list goes on. They are all based, to some extent on the original now defunct xtream codes, which had bugs as well. It really depends what you want to do with it.
If you use mag/stalker devices, xui one will have some problems that can be an issue, hls could cause issues as well, however with lines, restream and security its top, I find zap speed could be better. Xui one is now a discontinued product and is getting outdated. Last core update was in 2022, although they did issue a security update recently to patch a hacking problem.
Xtream ui is the user interface created by GTA to control the xtream codes core and became popular after the 2019 xtream codes takedown. un modified it lacks security, especially because its actually running xtream codes v2.9 from 2019 and thats now very old, so many patches and manual changes needed, and there is a limit to what one can fix on 6+ year old code, but projects like oden have sort of kept it alive.
The above software can be had free or cracked, but patches and fixes need to be applied and you will have to be ready to figure problems out yourself.
On the other hand, projects like nxt and 1 stream are paid and license based, with active support.
NXT its expensive and also uses a cms to control the system (similar to the original xtream codes), so your gui resides on servers that belong to the panel vendor and you will loose control of your system if they have problems or get taken down (thats what ended xtream codes in 2019). The panel had quite good support, but after legal problems last year, things are not the same, they also put up the price to 500 or 1000 euros per month. Quite a few users have moved to xui one or some other panel since. The cms was also down for short periods of time on occasions during the legal issues.
1 Stream is an on going paid project with support, however many complain that its very heavy on resources, I have used it for some time and that pretty gui is quite clunkey and slow, its like beauty vs functionality, were they give more importance to looks. I also recall 1 stream had problems with ondemand channels and some other stuff, but that could have been fixed by now. Its being heavy could lead to money being spent on powerful hardware that would otherwise not be required. We also do not know if the software would continue to function if the license server had to be taken down (due to legal action or other reason), even though its not cms based.
So its best to try, then decide what's best for you.

 

[geno1]

Here is a question.
What do you think is better, Xtreme-ui, XUI, Nxt, or ZapX, and is there any particular reason?

Really just for a general consensus on the different panels.

My 2 cents says that all of those platforms are cheap and very inferier to REAL premimum middlewares such as Setplex , MWare ,Telebreeze and others. None you mentioned can compare at all to even the most simplest premimum middleware on the market. At IBC you will never hear any of those mentioned because they are not even considered in the same category or playing fields with the Tier 1 middlewares available. There will be some in here that will disagree of course, but the fact is, if you have a platform that only costs pennies to maintain what do you expect? You get what you pay for. Most premimum platforms require at least 10-20 thousand dollars for onboarding and app developement before they will allow a client to utilize, in addition to, monthly minimum requirements. If you ever need help finding a "PREMIMUM" middleware I can possibly assist. Have a good day.

 

[julian]

My 2 cents says that all of those platforms are cheap and very inferier to REAL premimum middlewares such as Setplex , MWare ,Telebreeze and others. None you mentioned can compare at all to even the most simplest premimum middleware on the market. At IBC you will never hear any of those mentioned because they are not even considered in the same category or playing fields with the Tier 1 middlewares available. There will be some in here that will disagree of course, but the fact is, if you have a platform that only costs pennies to maintain what do you expect? You get what you pay for. Most premimum platforms require at least 10-20 thousand dollars for onboarding and app developement before they will allow a client to utilize, in addition to, monthly minimum requirements. If you ever need help finding a "PREMIMUM" middleware I can possibly assist. Have a good day.

That is probably true, however the likes of setplex require a client to verify ownership of content and have many other requirements, generally speaking they would not take on homebrew iptv hobbyists, even if it’s a business. Besides most of the solutions are just middleware and require other things, like media servers, cdn’s, conditional access and the like to build a working system. They are more suited to telecoms, not small backstreet operations, as are most of these iptv services. Even with a small telecom or isp, spending 100k on a middleware/streaming system is not a big deal, even more when they have existing ip infrastructure, such as an internet service provider wanting to offer tv services. That said, it was xtream codes who pushed the limits and demonstrated that iptv was possible anywhere and on any device, and that back in 2013, were the telecoms had little or no iptv infrastructure and were based mostly on dvbs/c/t. Eventually the big boys cought up and surpassed, but xtream was a driving force

 

[hus2003]

I think nxt is the best of them all, I use it and I am very satisfied.

 

[geno1]

That is probably true, however the likes of setplex require a client to verify ownership of content and have many other requirements, generally speaking they would not take on homebrew iptv hobbyists, even if it’s a business. Besides most of the solutions are just middleware and require other things, like media servers, cdn’s, conditional access and the like to build a working system. They are more suited to telecoms, not small backstreet operations, as are most of these iptv services. Even with a small telecom or isp, spending 100k on a middleware/streaming system is not a big deal, even more when they have existing ip infrastructure, such as an internet service provider wanting to offer tv services. That said, it was xtream codes who pushed the limits and demonstrated that iptv was possible anywhere and on any device, and that back in 2013, were the telecoms had little or no iptv infrastructure and were based mostly on dvbs/c/t. Eventually the big boys cought up and surpassed, but xtream was a driving force

Xtream Codes was a driving force certainly. I agree 100%.

 

[HyperX]

My 2 cents says that all of those platforms are cheap and very inferier to REAL premimum middlewares such as Setplex , MWare ,Telebreeze and others. None you mentioned can compare at all to even the most simplest premimum middleware on the market. At IBC you will never hear any of those mentioned because they are not even considered in the same category or playing fields with the Tier 1 middlewares available. There will be some in here that will disagree of course, but the fact is, if you have a platform that only costs pennies to maintain what do you expect? You get what you pay for. Most premimum platforms require at least 10-20 thousand dollars for onboarding and app developement before they will allow a client to utilize, in addition to, monthly minimum requirements. If you ever need help finding a "PREMIMUM" middleware I can possibly assist. Have a good day.

CrocOTT something between 2 of these worlds, onboarding 300$. What i know from FastoCloud, average time for app development takes 1000 hours, 1 developer hour cost 20-50$. At least 9 platforms (LG, ROKU, Samsung....) as result need up to 200k USD (for client this price around 10000$), middleware cost +/- same (for client 0.05$ per active device per month) after that you need to have content, 3-4$ per month per stream, + VODs, Series, DRM agreements optional, Media servers, CDN server, server for Middleware, developer accounts, etc... So you need to have at least 0.5M USD to build own solution (for client something like 15000$ and it is start point), this business very expensive thing. Setplex spent i think 20M+ for development, MWare 5M+, Telebreeze 10M+, and when they asked copyrights i think they trying to protect own business, have a good day.

 

[geno1]

CrocOTT something between 2 of these worlds, onboarding 300$. What i know from FastoCloud, average time for app development takes 1000 hours, 1 developer hour cost 20-50$. At least 9 platforms (LG, ROKU, Samsung....) as result need up to 200k USD (for client this price around 10000$), middleware cost +/- same (for client 0.05$ per active device per month) after that you need to have content, 3-4$ per month per stream, + VODs, Series, DRM agreements optional, Media servers, CDN server, server for Middleware, developer accounts, etc... So you need to have at least 0.5M USD to build own solution (for client something like 15000$ and it is start point), this business very expensive thing. Setplex spent i think 20M+ for development, MWare 5M+, Telebreeze 10M+, and when they asked copyrights i think they trying to protect own business, have a good day.

That would be considered a Tier 5 most likely. Our partners are not as expensive as 100k but still the on-boarding will run at a minimum around 30k, which includes apps in all the play stores except Vizio. If anyone is ever interested then feel free to hit me up.

 

[HyperX]

That would be considered a Tier 5 most likely. Our partners are not as expensive as 100k but still the on-boarding will run at a minimum around 30k, which includes apps in all the play stores except Vizio. If anyone is ever interested then feel free to hit me up.

What does it mean Tier 5?

 

[julian]

That would be considered a Tier 5 most likely. Our partners are not as expensive as 100k but still the on-boarding will run at a minimum around 30k, which includes apps in all the play stores except Vizio. If anyone is ever interested then feel free to hit me up.

Most problems on xtream codes like platforms are not due to the software, but to the content source. By and large they all use a combination ffmpeg/gstreamer, nginx as web server and some form of database/middleware using variants of mysql. If a provider has rights to the content he would also have access to the content source as part of the deal. On the other hand, back street iptv systems use relatively complicated methods to acquire the content and regularly face technical countermeasures as well as other hurdles like take down requests and ip/dns blocking, not to mention out right legal action.
In reality, the difference between xtream like systems and the ones stated in the previous post are more than meets the eye. The systems that we could call legal offer nothing to circumvent counter measures because they do not need them, on the other hand, the systems used by backstreet iptv providers are built to be flexible, are more portable and can be transformed and set up in hours to full functionality, something impossible with Setplex , MWare ,Telebreeze. Any of the high tire middle ware solutions would also function badly with a poor quality source, they could actually do a worse job of it too.
Its also worth noting that the above all took a page or two out of xtream-codes book.
And to answer HyperX, I think by 'Tier 5' he means a lower comparison
greets to all

 

[HyperX]

Most problems on xtream codes like platforms are not due to the software, but to the content source. By and large they all use a combination ffmpeg/gstreamer, nginx as web server and some form of database/middleware using variants of mysql. If a provider has rights to the content he would also have access to the content source as part of the deal. On the other hand, back street iptv systems use relatively complicated methods to acquire the content and regularly face technical countermeasures as well as other hurdles like take down requests and ip/dns blocking, not to mention out right legal action.
In reality, the difference between xtream like systems and the ones stated in the previous post are more than meets the eye. The systems that we could call legal offer nothing to circumvent counter measures because they do not need them, on the other hand, the systems used by backstreet iptv providers are built to be flexible, are more portable and can be transformed and set up in hours to full functionality, something impossible with Setplex , MWare ,Telebreeze. Any of the high tire middle ware solutions would also function badly with a poor quality source, they could actually do a worse job of it too.
Its also worth noting that the above all took a page or two out of xtream-codes book.
greets to all

Setplex , MWare ,Telebreeze have whitelabled players. Xtream have players from trash without support, all players with different layouts nothing professional, so if you are selling content for your friends, it is ok, but you will never be huge because you need support and updates. please don't compare full turn-key solutions with panels.

 

[julian]

Setplex , MWare ,Telebreeze have whitelabled players. Xtream have players from trash without support, all players with different layouts nothing professional, so if you are selling content for your friends, it is ok, but you will never be huge because you need support and updates. please don't compare full turn-key solutions with panels.

The solutions you suggest, although definitely better, are possibly beyond the scope of the original poster because of the significant price difference.

 

[geno1]

What does it mean Tier 5?

Yes, lower comparison would be about right. Here's an example of a Tier1 versus a tier 4/5 in streaming platforms. A tier 1 would be considered as Roku, LG, XUMO, Samsung ....a tier 4 and 5 would be considered my own platform: SlappinTV and other platforms like Zonify, Frreebie TV and Mometu. All are streaming platforms with FAST channels (mine included) but the difference is in volume and revenue, and of course, the CPM price between them all. Tier 1's get higher CPM for their content creators and channel partners than a Tier 4 or 5 because of the volume of viewers. Same idea in middleware. Tier 1's spend millions a year in R&D as they are constantly evolving to stay ahead of the times, especially with SSAI requirements, DRM updates and other key aspects of their system. XCUI and all the other "panels" dont have any of those functions. It is those necessary functions that seperate the kids from the adults in this space.