Info My formal request for member sales

[urgodfather]

Here I make my formal request to submit an item for member sales. However along with this request, I will state publicly that the items I wish to sale will not be uploaded to the site. Along with this, I request total exemption from any and all commissions to the site as well as any fees. My debts have been pre-paid with the years of free moderation I have paid to this community. As always, I am to be transparent and truthful to any who this discussion may concern and since I have disabled my not so private messaging, my only option is to make this request publicly.

 

[redhat]

Here I make my formal request to submit an item for member sales. However along with this request, I will state publicly that the items I wish to sale will not be uploaded to the site. Along with this, I request total exemption from any and all commissions to the site as well as any fees. My debts have been pre-paid with the years of free moderation I have paid to this community. As always, I am to be transparent and truthful to any who this discussion may concern and since I have disabled my not so private messaging, my only option is to make this request publicly.

Are you serious with this request.
You withdrew your self immediately and distanced yourself from member sales as a former chief moderator and stuff member.

https://www.worldofiptv.com/threads...how-to-get-a-seller-account.13311/post-120734

You referred the members directly to me as you had concerns about scamming. Now you are requesting for seller permissions.

It’s correct that you have made excellent job as a moderator for years. I am also very grateful to you for that. But honestly, I don't understand what you mean with “free” ?
I don’t remember that I ever made some agreement or made any promises that the stuff positions are paid.

However you had also all the befits as a Mod.

Unfortunately I can’t made exception for you regarding the commission, this would be unfair towards everyone else.

As it is already described, it's basically not required to upload the files to the server, it is possible to provide the resource as external link.


Let me know if you still want “Seller permissions”

 

[urgodfather]

Are you serious with this request.

Why would I make this post if I was not serious?

You withdrew your self immediately and distanced yourself from member sales as a former chief moderator and stuff member.

https://www.worldofiptv.com/threads...how-to-get-a-seller-account.13311/post-120734

You referred the members directly to me as you had concerns about scamming. Now you are requesting for seller permissions.

As you recall, I withdrew myself of staff involvement in regards to this very topic because it is exactly as you state below. Any and all financial arrangements are strictly and solely with you. I never withdrew myself from staff though. That was a punitive action as retaliation for my respectfully absolving myself from involvement as a staff member in regards the topic.

It’s correct that you have made excellent job as a moderator for years. I am also very grateful to you for that.

Thank you for the kind words as I have always strived to deliver excellence and fairness to the community.

But honestly, I don't understand what you mean with “free” ?

By "free," I am only validating there was never any payment for my involvement with moderation of the forum. It is an acknowledgement that financials never involved me.

I don’t remember that I ever made some agreement or made any promises that the stuff positions are paid.

This is true. Equally, it was never questioned or discussed, nor ever requested when the forum began collecting for coffee for staff, soliciting space for advertisements, collecting for memberships, collecting for vip and credits, and now for commission for permitting sales using the forum. Simply put, money has never been a topic of discussion and I respectfully wish to keep it that way.

However you had also all the befits as a Mod.

I am not confirming or denying this. I am not complaining or questioning about this either.

Unfortunately I can’t made exception for you regarding the commission, this would be unfair towards everyone else.

I humbly re-iterate my interest to avoid any discussion of financials with you other than stating that I do not wish to discuss and that I believe my contributions do exemplify me from this rule as "everyone else" was not staff for many years. Equally, I will only say that "can't" and won't are two different words, one being the result of a choice.

As it is already described, it's basically not required to upload the files to the server, it is possible to provide the resource as external link.
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I choose not to expand on my reasoning for requesting exemption from this requirement but I will acknowledge that you already know the answer to this. Again, it is a choice to be made but I am not questioning nor will I go into further detail.

Let me know if you still want “Seller permissions”

My request remains the same as I've previously stated. I have already been dismembered from staff for simply wishing eliminate any misunderstanding the community may have in regards to my involvement to any and all financial aspects related to the forum. As I stated previously and above, my potential debts have been pre-paid with my years of service to the community and I wish to use this function without the forum being involved with my financials from any sales. I think this is a very fair and neutral request, with consideration that it is I who is requesting it and not any other member. Ultimately, this decision is yours to make and historically anyone that defies your interests is met with retaliation so if you do not want to respect my humble request to continue as previously where money is never discussed between you and I, then the answer is clear that money is of more importance to you. If that is the case then I respectfully accept it and will simply not sell on World of IPTV forum or maybe I just will not sell at all. My messages are already disabled so there is no concern about me advertising on the not so private messaging. Thank you for replying and I await your next if any is even given. If not then let us end this discussion and move on.

 

[redhat]

Why would I make this post if I was not serious?

İt's easy! So because you as Chief Moderator of the Forum didn't trust the "member sales" and you had concerned about possible scamming.
Although it was expressly pointed out in the description that everyone (buyer and seller) is responsiblefor themselves.
First you withdraw and have concerns about possible scams, then you want to take advantage of this offer for yourself.
This is very contradictory!

As you recall, I withdrew myself of staff involvement in regards to this very topic because it is exactly as you state below. Any and all financial arrangements are strictly and solely with you. I never withdrew myself from staff though. That was a punitive action as retaliation for my respectfully absolving myself from involvement as a staff member in regards the topic.

In my opinion, it is very questionable how respectful or better (responsible) such a post as chief moderator is.


However, I have accepted your "respectful" decision and have just also "respectfully" decided to continue your account as a member

By "free," I am only validating there was never any payment for my involvement with moderation of the forum. It is an acknowledgement that financials never involved me.

It had sounded to me like I debts you or someone else.

This is true. Equally, it was never questioned or discussed, nor ever requested when the forum began collecting for coffee for staff, soliciting space for advertisements, collecting for memberships, collecting for vip and credits, and now for commission for permitting sales using the forum. Simply put, money has never been a topic of discussion and I respectfully wish to keep it that way.

No one has the right to ask or demand this anyway. I do not demand money from any staff members for Server, Domain, DDoS Protection.


This is the money collected for the staff, write how much you demand, I will send it to you, I have no problem with this.

I am not confirming or denying this. I am not complaining or questioning about this either.

But i can confirm it

I humbly re-iterate my interest to avoid any discussion of financials with you other than stating that I do not wish to discuss and that I believe my contributions do exemplify me from this rule as "everyone else" was not staff for many years. Equally, I will only say that "can't" and won't are two different words, one being the result of a choice.

Yes that true. It's a respectful way of "won't"

I choose not to expand on my reasoning for requesting exemption from this requirement but I will acknowledge that you already know the answer to this. Again, it is a choice to be made but I am not questioning nor will I go into further detail.

I understand this clearly (I think everyone else here too), this means for me clearly that you have no trust.
There is a clear answer to that: If someone has no trust, no matter why, they should not use the "Member Sales".

My request remains the same as I've previously stated. I have already been dismembered from staff for simply wishing eliminate any misunderstanding the community may have in regards to my involvement to any and all financial aspects related to the forum. As I stated previously and above, my potential debts have been pre-paid with my years of service to the community and I wish to use this function without the forum being involved with my financials from any sales. I think this is a very fair and neutral request, with consideration that it is I who is requesting it and not any other member.

Unfortunately, my reply remains also the same as I've previously stated.

Ultimately, this decision is yours to make and historically anyone that defies your interests is met with retaliation

That's not quite the case. Basically, I am of the opinion that I am obliged to make certain decisions as the founder and admin of this community.
Especially when it comes to infidelity. When it comes to insults and threats by the own staff members, sorry but then of course I will take appropriate measures ! So to say "anyone" is a bit daring.

so if you do not want to respect my humble request to continue as previously where money is never discussed between you and I, then the answer is clear that money is of more importance to you. If that is the case then I respectfully accept it and will simply not sell on World of IPTV forum or maybe I just will not sell at all. My messages are already disabled so there is no concern about me advertising on the not so private messaging. Thank you for replying and I await your next if any is even given. If not then let us end this discussion and move on.

You're trying to make me choose between, "You either accept my offer or you show everyone you care about the money".
This approach is so wrong. Most here make money through the IPTV business in some way. Some may do it as a hobby with a small side income, others may earn theier living cost with it. Nobody here can say that money is not important. Also you can't do that. If it is so, then I would like to ask you to provide your stuff freely to all members in resource manager.

 

[sc0tsman]

urgodfather now I can speak freely without fear of a ban, personally as far as helping members here goes you did very little to help anyone and always looked down on people with smart ass replies. You bullied people daily, threatening them with bans if they never seen your (sometimes wrong) point of view.
My 2 bits.

EDIT: I don't expect you to understand my comments, as your sense of superiority over others prohibits that.

 

[urgodfather]

urgodfather now I can speak freely without fear of a ban, personally as far as helping members here goes you did very little to help anyone and always looked down on people with smart ass replies. You bullied people daily, threatening them with bans if they never seen your (sometimes wrong) point of view.
My 2 bits.

EDIT: I don't expect you to understand my comments, as your sense of superiority over others prohibits that.

Mate, are you using a brown starfish as a monocle? ? How many times have I had rounds with others and not banned? If you wanted to say this then you should have. I don’t just blindly retaliate with punishment. Thank you for finally getting that off your chest and I hope you are able to sleep better now.

Btw just because I did not help with the answers that people wanted does not mean I did not help.


Also, @redhat thank you for the reply. Let us end this discussion amicably as it is clear that we will not agree. You are familiar with the expression, agree to disagree, yes? Let’s do that. Keep your money. I don’t want it and never did want it.

 

[redhat]

Also, @redhat thank you for the reply. Let us end this discussion amicably as it is clear that we will not agree. You are familiar with the expression, agree to disagree, yes? Let’s do that. Keep your money. I don’t want it and never did want it.

Since we agree, I'm closing this thread!